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No Jury Duty for me.

  • 10th Sep, 2008 at 7:25 AM
Cocktopus

Yesterday, I went down to the Superior Court, answering a summons for Jury Duty. It was an interesting experience, but one which was somewhat futile and frustrating in that I spent about eight hours there and didn't actually get selected for any of the three trials they had me attend the Jury panels for.

This is kind of disappointing; I had actually gotten kind of excited about it. It seemed like an exciting change of pace from my actual job (and would pay slightly better, once the trial hit the 50 day mark). Especially disappointing (and potentially interesting0 was the third one.

This third one started very strangely. The Jury Panel I was with (about 100 people who had also been summoned on the same day) were all brought into a large, strange courtroom with all this super-high-tech equipment (I would later learn there's more than 3 kilometers of electronic cables in that one room), bullet-proof barricades, and about a half-dozen desks within the court.



We were then asked if any of us felt like taking part in a nine-month trial. If not, we were free to leave immediately. All but twelve of us did, and I was one of the few to hang around. I thought to myself, "Hey, it'll be a great story to tell once the trial is over, it'll be meaningful work, and I get to call my bosses and tell them 'Hey, guess what? I need nine or ten months off. Yeah, no. You're legally required to give it to me and keep my job available to me for when I get back".

We're all then taken aside again and told that all but one space on the jury has already been taken up, and they need just one more, of which one of the twelve of us is going to be chosen. We were led, shortly later, back into the courtroom, where we listened to a lengthy, lengthy list of charges. Twenty-three counts, involving extortion, death threats, conspiracy, possession of massive, massive piles of grenades, pistols, automatic rifles and the like. The defendants?

Four members of the Hells Angels. 

We were taken out of the courtroom again, and told we  would be led into the courtroom in a random order, and questioned by the judge to see how qualified we might be for this position. I got picked second. My heart was racing. Though I realized that there was an element of personal risk involved in a trial involving a heavily-armed organized crime ring such as this, I also realized that, rationally speaking, very few jurors in such cases ever actually face personal harm as a consequence of their roll. I was all for it. This was going to be an adventure.

The judge asked me about my personal biases and such, and I was able to truthfully answer that while I was of course aware of the Hell's Angels, I was never interested in them enough to read enough to personally bias me. Finally, the various lawyers involved, one after another, said "No objections", "We find this one acceptable", etc. , until finally we came to the one accused who had bizarrely decided to represent himself. "Challenge, your honour", he said. This is essentially court-speak for "I don't want this guy on my jury". It was the final hurdle for me to overcome, and unfortunately, I did not clear it. I was on my way home.

In perfect honesty, I can't say I resent the outing too much. It certainly was an interesting and enlightening experience, and I had never actually been inside of the courthouse before, which was a grand sight to behold. All the same, I do wish I hadn't walked away disappointed. I was all for it. Ah. well.

Comments

[info]hentaikid wrote:
10th Sep, 2008 16:15 (UTC)
So the Hell's angel rejected you? Funny, from your photos you kinda look like you'd be HA material, maybe with a bit more facial hair and a wardrobe change.

Maybe he thought you were from a rival chapter.
[info]dave_littler wrote:
10th Sep, 2008 16:17 (UTC)
Maybe i shouldn't have had my hair tied back into a ponytail...

But then, the prosecution might have rejected me for the same reasons. It's a difficult balance to strike.
[info]eowynz wrote:
12th Sep, 2008 17:02 (UTC)
I have to go in for jury duty next month. Sounds like America and Canada use fairly similar systems for jury selection. This probably won't end up being comparable, but how long did the jury panels run?
[info]dave_littler wrote:
12th Sep, 2008 17:49 (UTC)
Well, bear in mind that the first two were both murder trials, so they were probably a lot more picky than they would normally be. This having been said, they were around an hour and a half each. The third one, as mentioned, went quite a bit differently, and I don't think it can be compared to anything ordinary as a result.
[info]eowynz wrote:
13th Sep, 2008 02:32 (UTC)
Did you have to wait long in between each panel? What did they ask you?
[info]dave_littler wrote:
15th Sep, 2008 13:13 (UTC)
The first and second panel were pretty close together; they cleared out the judge, the lawyers, the sheriffs and the accused, and then their replacements arrived within about ten minutes or so and we got back at it. I never even got called during the first panel, but I did get called for the second. The second one I got called for almost immediately, and the defense attorney asked me to clarify what exactly my job was. I explained it to him as plainly as I could, and he said "challenge", at which point I was set aside.

The third one - the Hell's Angels one - I was asked (1) If I had ever heard of the Hell's Angels ("Well, of course I'm aware of their existence"), (2) If I knew anything about them which would prevent me from being impartial in the trial ("I don't believe so"), and... some other question, which was basically the same thing, but worded slightly differently, and which I gave the same answer to, essentially.
[info]eowynz wrote:
17th Sep, 2008 02:15 (UTC)
Oh, cool. I think maybe it was a dumb move of the guy to challenge you, if his lawyer didn't have a problem with you being on the jury.
[info]dave_littler wrote:
17th Sep, 2008 13:21 (UTC)
Well, that's the thing: This guy was representing himself, plainly not having heeded the old addage that "The man who acts as his own lawyer is represented by a fool".

Here, this smarmy lookin' guy:

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/storyimage.html?id=0636ad9b-8727-4b91-b6d4-959821aaccfd&img=cbfade07-d407-4c81-8097-384e9c318ead&path=/vancouversun/
[info]eowynz wrote:
21st Sep, 2008 19:09 (UTC)
Huh...doesn't look like the stereotypical biker to me. Well, maybe he was bigoted against you because you sort of do (though not really). Seems to be a person who's a little too certain of himself, though, not that willing to take other peoples' opinions.
[info]eowynz wrote:
16th Oct, 2008 19:17 (UTC)
Well, I went for jury duty. Every day they pick people to be in the jury pool, so that usually people get to only be at the courthouse one day. But apparently the first day that they had trouble picking, because my first day there was the second of the case's selection, and we ended up having to stay another day. I guess they didn't feel like restating the case to another set of people.

It was a civil case between a guy whose wife had died at the hospital, and the hospital itself. Really sad. The wife had had various problems with herself, like renal failure and bone marrow cancer, to name a couple, but apparently there was some trouble when she was given anesthesia.

Six people were picked when we got there, but it took forever that first day, and the next three people ended up getting dismissed. Thankfully it was an awesome group of people, and they were really fun to talk to. Everyone was in a happy mood, despite their impatience.

In the end I got rejected by the hospital's attorney when I was questioned to be an alternate, but heck, I don't mind. I need to get my car running anyway.

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